1 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Can you see Daddy? Should we wave to Daddy? 2 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,000 - Go on. Wave. - Do you need both hands on it? 3 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Hello! 4 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,680 No! No! 5 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,800 No! No! 6 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,440 I went for a walk with my mother when I was a child… 7 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,800 And she never made it home. 8 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Right, let's get this sock on. 9 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,880 And then we'll get this jumper on as well. 10 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,360 - Yeah? - No, I want Mummy to do it. 11 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,120 - Get it on. - I want Mummy to do it. 12 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,720 Come on, Alex. 13 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Alex… Alex… Come on. Just for once, let Daddy do it. 14 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Hello! 15 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Alex. 16 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,120 - Put my jumper on. - Daddy can put it on for you. 17 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,160 - I don't want Daddy to put it on. - Please, Mummy's getting ready. 18 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,320 - Come on, we need to let Mummy get ready. - I want Mummy to do it. 19 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,080 - Put my jumper on. - Okay. 20 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,520 I'll put it on. 21 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,800 If you insist. 22 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Here we go. 23 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,080 Shall I get your jumper? Come on. The quicker we get ready, 24 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,400 the quicker we can go to the park. And then… 25 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 - Then we're gonna ride my tricycle. - We're gonna ride your tricycle. 26 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Going to the park first, yeah? 27 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,320 - Shall we say bye to Daddy? - Okay. 28 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Have a fun day. I love you. 29 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,320 I'll call at lunchtime. Love you. 30 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,240 Love you too. 31 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,280 - Right, what do we need now? - My shoes. 32 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,360 Yes, where are they gonna be? Are they in there? 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,960 Have you hidden them up your sleeve? 34 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Come on, mate! Got places to be! 35 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Move! 36 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,360 Here we go. 37 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Ready. Can you jump? 38 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Well done. 39 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,080 Okey-dokey. Right, will you hold my hand? 40 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,080 'Cause we're going through the car park. How many trees do you think you can climb? 41 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,240 - Fifteen. - Fifteen?! 42 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,720 - Actually, no, 100. - 100? 43 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,800 Actually, no, 110. 44 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,360 110. Okay. That's a very reasonable amount. 45 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,280 No, dear. Here we go. 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,760 - And fish? - Yeah. 47 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,640 What kind of fish? Big fish? 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,880 - Yeah. - Big fish? 49 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Big, medium, and small. 50 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Aha! 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,880 - Good morning, mate. - Good morning. Just the one today. 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Tap gently. Gently, gently. 53 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,680 What's that? Is that a worm? 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,920 Look! 55 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,360 Can you see it? 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Thank you. 57 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,560 That's all right. I'll just find my pen. Just down there, please. 58 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:36,680 You know who would love this? I think the frogs would love this. 59 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,600 - Yeah. - Yeah. 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,880 - Elephants. - Elephants would love it. 61 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,840 They'd be going squish, squish, squish. 62 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,800 I don't think you thought… 63 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Hello? 64 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,720 Hello, is that André? Are you Rachel's boyfriend? 65 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Who the hell is this? What are you doing in my flat? 66 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,360 André, where are you? Are you on your own? 67 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Hi, I'm André Hanscombe. Alex Hanscombe's dad. 68 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,240 Mr. Hanscombe? 69 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,680 - Alex isn't here. - Where is he? 70 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,800 He's safe. Please, come… come… come with me. 71 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,920 - Can we have the room, please? - Of course, sir. 72 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,040 Thank you. 73 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,440 What's happened? 74 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,120 Take a seat. 75 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:49,120 Rachel was attacked and killed with a knife. 76 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,440 I'm sorry. 77 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:07,400 Just… just tell me everything. 78 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,880 I just… I need to know what happened. 79 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,680 - Afternoon. - Afternoon, sir. 80 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,160 Investigation team. Where am I going? 81 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,920 Over there, guv. 82 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Any first impressions? 83 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,680 Well, from a cursory glance, 84 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,840 I'd say that the initial attack happened some way from where we found the body. 85 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,040 So you think she was moved? 86 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,040 Injuries are consistent with dragging, 87 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,000 possibly from this first area of bloodstaining. 88 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:01,440 After which point the blood trail becomes sporadic. 89 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,600 She was eventually forced to here. 90 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,680 This is where he violently sexually assaults her. 91 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,120 She's been stabbed multiple times. 92 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Who's that? 93 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,000 He found her. 94 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,600 And the child. 95 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,800 The boy didn't seem to want to, leave the… the body. 96 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Excuse me, sir. DCI Wickerson. Did you hear the boy say anything? 97 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Yeah, he said, 98 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 "Get up, Mummy. Get my mummy." 99 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,920 So he saw it all? 100 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,160 This whole place is on lockdown, 101 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,840 so no one can get near him. 102 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,560 We've sedated him. He's only just gone off. 103 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Your son's injuries are superficial, mostly to his face. 104 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,720 If you could wait for him to wake up, 105 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,640 our child psychologist would like to speak to you. 106 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,000 - Could I... - Why don't we nip to the flat? 107 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,920 You'll need things for the two of you. You can't stay there now. 108 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,280 - Can I just go in... - He's… he's been sedated. 109 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,920 The brutal murder of a young mother shattered the tranquility 110 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,400 of one of London's most affluent suburbs. 111 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,040 She was sexually assaulted, and her throat had been cut. 112 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,200 The little boy was also beaten in the attack 113 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,120 and was found clinging to his mother's body by a passer-by. 114 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,480 The boy was covered in mud and blood. 115 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,360 He appeared to have been beaten about the head. 116 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Police say he may have been seized first and dragged into the bushes 117 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,960 and his mother attacked when she went after him. 118 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Why didn't he kill the kid? 119 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,080 Get back. Get back now. 120 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,600 Come on, André, this way. 121 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,120 All right, that's it! Get back! 122 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 All right, we're done! All right? That's enough! 123 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,920 They've offered the neighbors money for pictures inside the flat. 124 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,720 André's mother uses her married name, so they can hide out there. 125 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,880 Can we help at all? 126 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,080 Rachel handles most of this stuff. I don't… 127 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,560 I don't know what he needs. 128 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,600 - I don't even know what he needs. - We'll need some clothes too. 129 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:04,280 Yours and Alex's for… …forensics. 130 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,280 - Might be worth packing some of his toys. - Yeah. 131 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,280 Yeah. 132 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,480 He hasn't spoken since he was pulled away from the body. 133 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,080 It's important you understand, André, that if Alex is going to get over this, 134 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,040 you can't lie to him now. 135 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:34,120 It's absolutely vital he knows exactly where he stands from the start. 136 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,480 What he needs now is honesty and routine. 137 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,280 Okay. 138 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,880 Thank you. 139 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,040 There you go. 140 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Okay, listen. 141 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,960 There's been an accident. 142 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Mummy's been killed, 143 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,120 and she's gone. 144 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,440 She won't be coming back. 145 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,080 Hey. 146 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Come here. 147 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,840 They, used to walk locally, but she was flashed at months ago. 148 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,120 But she started driving to Wimbledon. 149 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 - It was just… safer. - Yeah. 150 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,400 - Okay. - He's asleep. 151 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Thanks, Mum. 152 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,080 They were the unit, 153 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Alex and Rachel, you know? 154 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,640 - I was just… - Yeah. 155 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Listen, I know this is tough... 156 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Could social services take him away from me? 157 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,200 Have they caught him? 158 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,600 They've got an 11-hundred-acre crime scene, André, 159 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,880 and so far no witnesses. Well… 160 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,240 What? 161 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,680 Whatever Alex saw could obviously be invaluable, 162 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,840 but nobody wants to make things worse. 163 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,440 No, and, look, it won't be our decision. 164 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,320 But if Alex is the only witness, 165 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,200 he's in danger, isn't he? I mean, the killer knows that he saw him. 166 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,160 He'll be safe here, André. 167 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,720 She says that, at the moment, 168 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,880 it's unclear exactly how much of the attack Alex witnessed. 169 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,200 I think a child would have no concept of death at all, 170 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,440 so as far as he's concerned, his mother has left him. 171 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,200 And he would think, as many children that age do, 172 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,600 it was because of something he did. 173 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,840 How long could this trauma last? 174 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 It could last a lifetime. 175 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,600 What's wrong? 176 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,560 What's wrong with this one? Look, it's just… Alex. 177 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,120 I want to wear my dinosaur one. 178 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,360 - We don't have the... - Where is it? 179 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,320 It's at home, and we can't go home right now... 180 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,440 - But I want it. - What about… 181 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,680 Desperate Dan? 182 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,400 - I know you like this one. - No. 183 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Alex, we can't go home, so you have to wear this one. 184 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,600 I wanna go home! 185 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,880 - Keith. Take a seat, please. - Sir. 186 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,000 It's everywhere you look. 187 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,280 A pretty blonde and a sex murder. 188 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Even without the boy, it's an editor's dream. 189 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Meanwhile, we've got nothing. 190 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,560 A woman is stabbed 49 times in a public space in broad daylight. 191 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Nothing. 192 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Commissioner himself wants a daily progress report. 193 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Pressure's on already? 194 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Yeah, I need a DI who can handle that. Go in there and sort this out. 195 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,760 With respect, sir, it sounds like it could be a poisoned chalice. 196 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Could also be an ideal opportunity 197 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,520 for a copper on the rise to really prove himself. 198 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,560 I want the bus bowl. 199 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,240 - His… his bowl isn't in there. - This is fine. 200 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,160 - He won't eat out of that. - He will today. 201 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Alex, what is it? 202 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,560 - The way Mummy does it. - On his shelf. 203 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,200 Alex, come on. I'm gonna have to put you down. 204 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,360 - Anything? - No. 205 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Let me help. He won't eat that. 206 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,360 - All right. - Yeah? 207 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Grandma June's gonna help you out, okay? 208 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Come on. 209 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,560 All right, matey? 210 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,920 You all right, André? 211 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,480 It's on the front page of every newspaper. 212 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,760 About… 213 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,600 There's reporters camped outside his nursery. 214 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,120 Look what we've got now. Look what I've found. 215 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,160 - Has he said anything? - No. 216 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,600 - You don't wanna look? - Okay. 217 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,160 Okay. Here we are. 218 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,560 You need him, don't you? 219 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,080 I know. Take that off your… 220 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,800 I know that when Mummy died, 221 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,200 someone else was there, wasn't there? 222 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Remember much about them? 223 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,120 What… what about if I draw him? 224 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,200 Can you help me draw him? 225 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Maybe tell me what he was wearing? 226 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Just… 227 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,960 What about this? 228 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,880 See the bad man? I don't like him. 229 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,080 And this is what I want to do with him. 230 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Yeah? Do you wanna have a go? 231 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,640 Nice. 232 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,120 Ooh, good shot. 233 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,640 Well, he remembers something, God help him. 234 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:17,120 Sit on that, I'll bring it over. Go on. On you get. 235 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,200 You ready? 236 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Nice! 237 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,000 He hasn't cried once. 238 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,200 Anything we need? 239 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,400 Well, maybe he doesn't understand that she's… gone. 240 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,280 What's up? 241 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,520 You want me to come? 242 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Nick and Paul are great at forts. I'll come and look after, yeah? 243 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,720 He'll come soon. 244 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,800 - What do you want? - I want that pillow for a wall. 245 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,360 Okay, you take it, then. 246 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Nice one. 247 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Who knows what's going on in his little head? 248 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,040 What are we gonna use that for? 249 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,560 Alex? 250 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,560 Wow, look at that. 251 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,120 Maybe I'll take him with me 252 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,280 when I identify her. 253 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Really? 254 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,600 I don't know about that. 255 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,160 It would be his last chance to see her face. 256 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Where'd he go? 257 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,360 Do you wanna see Mummy now? 258 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,280 Alex? 259 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,400 Alex? 260 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Do you want to see Mummy now? 261 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Keith? 262 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Ladies and gentlemen, can I have your attention, please? 263 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Thank you. 264 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,960 Right, this is DI Pedder. Keith's one of the sharpest around. 265 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,520 One of? 266 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,680 So what's the latest? 267 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,120 Right, well, we've got two possibles. 268 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,240 A short-haired man seen washing his hands in a nearby stream, 269 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,040 or a chap with a ponytail in a rush just after the body was found. 270 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:26,680 Well, he wants nicking for the ponytail. 271 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,360 But we still haven't got a single matching description, 272 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,880 along with no weapon, no DNA, no fingerprints, 273 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,000 and, apart from half a footprint 274 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480 and some flecks of red paint in Alex's hair, 275 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,240 no physical evidence. 276 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,600 What about the piece of paper on her forehead? 277 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Yeah. That was a notification from the bank of Rachel's PIN number. 278 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,840 But we don't know how it got there or what it means. 279 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,200 So, out of 500 potential witnesses… 280 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,120 Who we're still tracing, 281 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,120 along with 100 known sex offenders living in the immediate vicinity alone. 282 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,640 Sorry, go on. 283 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,880 …we still don't have one definitive sighting of our man? 284 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,160 No. And the pathologist says, 285 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,160 because no arteries were severed, he probably wasn't covered in blood. 286 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,560 So, needle in a haystack. 287 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,080 I'm not even sure we're looking in the right haystack. 288 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,360 Have we interviewed the boy yet? 289 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Police tell me at least 100 people were on the common 290 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,120 at the time of the attack. 291 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,520 It's a popular spot for joggers and for people walking their dogs. 292 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,680 In fact, there was a golf tournament going on, 293 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,480 and there would have been golfers a few hundred yards away 294 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,240 when the murder took place. 295 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,920 We were here from half seven on. Never heard nothing like this. 296 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,120 I know we're all nervous, 297 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,600 but I've worked in childhood trauma for many years, 298 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,280 and I can assure you that if Alex can talk about what happened, 299 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,280 then it will help him in the future. 300 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,480 So… …now that 301 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,960 we've all shared how we found out about what happened, 302 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,400 there's only one person left. 303 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,600 And you were there, weren't you, Alex? 304 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,320 When the bad man killed your lovely mummy. 305 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Do you remember if he said anything, Alex? 306 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Which hand did the man have the knife in, Alex? 307 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,040 Is it left or right? 308 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,360 Hey, Al… Alex? 309 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,640 - Gentle. - It's all right. 310 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,480 You must have felt 311 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,000 so small and helpless. 312 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Do you remember what happened when you first saw the bad man, Alex? 313 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Hey, nicely, Alex. 314 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,600 It's okay. It's all right. 315 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Alex, stop. Draw. 316 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:30,720 See, I think that Alex can remember everything about his worst-ever day. 317 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,120 'Cause he's such a clever little boy. 318 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,880 Okay, Alex, stop. Stop. Gentle. 319 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,640 Gentle or stop. Al… Alex. 320 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Alex, stop. Alex. Alex! 321 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Hey. Alex, stop it. Come on, calm down. 322 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,720 - What's that? A chimney? - Building. 323 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,200 This is all building, yeah? And that's the boat? 324 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,600 A sort of outhouse. 325 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Hi. 326 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,520 Are you… you ready to continue? 327 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,000 I think maybe I should just go and get his trike or… 328 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Well, André, I want you to try to remember how young he is. 329 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,440 Alex doesn't yet have the vocabulary or experience to articulate what happened 330 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,400 or his feelings about it. 331 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,200 It's just it feels like an interrogation. 332 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,680 You're doing the right thing. 333 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Do you know that? Can you be certain? Because I didn't recognize that child. 334 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,000 In truth, this is unprecedented for all of us. 335 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,720 Nobody can say exactly what the long-term effects will be, 336 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,480 but without therapy, 337 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,000 the risk of Alex growing up to live an angry and chaotic life 338 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520 and hurt himself or others, 339 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,000 it only increases. 340 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,680 André. 341 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,400 Thank you so much for coming. 342 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Ivan Agnew. We spoke on the phone. 343 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,880 Was the journey okay? I know you had some concerns. 344 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,320 Yeah, the press usually get tipped off from flight logs, so… 345 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720 - Right. - Now I buy my ticket at the airport. 346 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,800 Yeah, yeah, I can understand. 347 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,120 Do you wanna put your bag on there? 348 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,040 I'd like to show you something. 349 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:42,280 So this room is solely dedicated to the investigation. 350 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,360 It's already one of the largest inquiries in British police history. 351 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,360 And we're opening it up again, André. 352 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760 I don't understand what's changed. 353 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Well, 354 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,720 DNA technology has moved on since 1992, 355 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080 and we've commissioned an independent forensic firm 356 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,840 to reanalyze all the original samples. 357 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,360 Okay, and does the media know about this? 358 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,400 No. 359 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,640 Not yet. 360 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,400 Look, I know mistakes were made last time, 361 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,720 but… we need your help, André. 362 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,760 And I know this is sensitive… 363 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,800 But I'd like to talk to you about Alex. 364 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Hey, how's it going? 365 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,440 What's up, mate? 366 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,400 Look, look, look. 367 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,080 About time. 368 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Wait. The three wise men came for a visit? 369 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,520 - He's finally bought some. - Fuck off. 370 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Are we gonna smash this joint or what? 371 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,120 Alex. 372 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,200 You're home. 373 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,920 - You okay? - Yeah. 374 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,400 Where have you been? I've been back for hours. 375 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,200 I was just helping a mate out with something after school. 376 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,040 - Yeah? - Yeah. Have you, eaten? 377 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,360 Well, not yet, actually, but I can do you a plate if you'd like. 378 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,440 Yeah? 379 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,400 Are you 380 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,040 not gonna ask about London? 381 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,560 Sure. 382 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,920 How was it? 383 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,040 Yeah, it was… 384 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,520 It was okay. 385 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960 They're reopening the case, 386 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,800 and they actually want to reinterview you. 387 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,640 Thing is, I told them everything I remember. 388 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Plus, I don't even think about it now. 389 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,120 I know, Alex. I just… I said we'd at least talk about it. 390 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200 You can't speak for me, Dad. 391 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Not anymore. 392 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,440 Alex. 393 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,200 Can you knock? 394 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Sorry, I… 395 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,120 I didn't think. 396 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Alex, look, I… 397 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,680 I get that you blame the police. I do. 398 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800 But this isn't about them. 399 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,920 And it's not about me. 400 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,240 - This is about... - Don't dare bring Mum into this. 401 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600 I don't wanna remember my mother for her death. 402 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,640 I wanna remember her for her life, what she wanted for me. 403 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760 - She didn't want mainstream education. - That was a conversation... 404 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 - She didn't want me eating animals. - At least eat fish. 405 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,200 You need to get protein, Alex. That's… 406 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,360 You're not dragging me through that again. 407 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Alex, wait. Al... 408 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Many people asking, 409 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,960 is anyone safe when murders can take place in broad daylight? 410 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280 I've always felt safe here. Always. 411 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,640 So it's… it's changed my life. 412 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,320 There are suspects. Four men were spotted near the scene. 413 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Perhaps the most important was the one seen washing his hands 414 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,240 in this stream shortly after the murder. 415 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,720 He, like the others, hasn't been traced, 416 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,200 and the police fear that if it was the killer, 417 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,760 he may strike again. 418 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Sir. 419 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600 André. Nicholas Campbell. 420 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Please, stay seated. 421 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,960 I understand you're having second thoughts. 422 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,080 Yeah, I just… 423 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,920 I don't think I can do this. 424 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,280 What's that? Is that a rainbow? 425 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,120 - Wanna show my friend? - Let's have a look. 426 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Yeah. 427 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,240 We need information, André. 428 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,960 And in order to get it, we must be friends with the media. 429 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,480 Understand? 430 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,840 - Not really... - We… we really need this, André. 431 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Thank you. 432 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,720 Okay. 433 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Daddy won't be long. Hey, it's okay. You're here with Paul. 434 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,880 - You can draw some more pictures. - Yeah, he'll be back soon. 435 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,440 - No. Daddy… - You want some stickers? 436 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,840 Don't go. No. 437 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,120 Maybe you could draw a picture for when Dad gets back, no? 438 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,520 What's your favorite sticker? 439 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,720 Here he comes. 440 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320 - André. - Can you settle down, please? 441 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,800 Mr. Hanscombe's gonna make a statement. 442 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,120 - You'll have a chance to ask questions. - André! 443 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,640 You'll have a chance to ask questions. 444 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,960 - Quiet down now. Thank you. - André! 445 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,440 - Has Alex spoken yet? - How much does Alex remember? 446 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240 I don't know how Alex will be in the future. 447 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,600 But I just want to say to anyone who knows the person who did this, 448 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760 no matter how they might feel about them, 449 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,920 please come forward… before he destroys anyone else's life. 450 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,800 - Have you made any progress? - Where are you living, André? 451 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,520 How's Alex sleeping? 452 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,360 If you could respect the family's privacy at this stage… 453 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,200 - And… - You all right? 454 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Who's next? 455 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,640 Hey! 456 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Let's go. 457 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,880 It's not just about what Alex needs, you know? 458 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,160 You lost her too, André. 459 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,080 What do you need? 460 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,240 Come here. 461 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,160 Are you sure about this? 462 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,520 Hey. I won't be long. 463 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,800 Hey, what's the matter? 464 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,000 I'll only be a couple of minutes. 465 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,800 - We can play some games, mate. - No. 466 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,800 - Be back before you know it. - No. 467 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,040 Alex. 468 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,080 I did explain, didn't I? I'm going to see where Mummy died. 469 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,800 I'm going to lay a rose 470 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,680 and say goodbye properly. I won't be long. 471 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,720 But I want to come with you. 472 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,120 - Alex, I don't think... - I want to. 473 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,800 You want to say goodbye too? 474 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,960 Yes. 475 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,320 I don't think that's a good idea. 476 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Hey. 477 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,040 We need to be sure you know what we're doing. 478 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,480 You want to come and say goodbye? 479 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Yes. 480 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,400 Okay. 481 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,680 He's sure. 482 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,800 - Yeah. Yeah, all right. - Okay. 483 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,120 Okay. 484 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Don't pay them any attention. 485 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,160 Right. Step back, please, all right? Let them walk. 486 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640 Get back! You're scaring him. 487 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,800 Back off. Right off. 488 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 I said back! 489 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,720 Is this the place? 490 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,480 Daddy's here. 491 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,880 I'll always be here. 492 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,280 Are you remembering? 493 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,760 What about this? He look anything like this? 494 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:26,760 Okay, that's a no. 495 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,840 How about this, Alex? 496 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,000 No? Okay, right. 497 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,080 Tell you what, do you remember anything about what he was wearing? 498 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,840 Like, did he have a T-shirt on? Like Daddy, like what Daddy's wearing? 499 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,760 Or like a shirt with a collar, like this? 500 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Like this or what Paul's wearing? 501 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,480 Like this? Like this, a shirt? 502 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,560 - A shirt like that. - With buttons on. 503 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,400 Yeah? Shirt. 504 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,160 - Okay. - Okay. 505 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,880 Was he thin like Daddy? 506 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,320 Was he fat like Paul? 507 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,920 Just like Daddy. 508 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,400 Like Daddy. Okay, that's good. Really good. 509 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,760 - Really good, mate. - Yeah. 510 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,440 Was he big or small, Alex? 511 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,400 I mean, he's a child, Paul. Everyone's big. 512 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,760 Batman. 513 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,080 - He was… - Batman. 514 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,080 We'll play with Batman later. Was he wearing trousers or shorts? 515 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,320 - Batman. - What about Batman? 516 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Belt. 517 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,520 A belt? Did he have a belt like Batman? 518 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,520 Yeah? He had a belt. 519 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,720 Batman. 520 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,360 He meant the utility belt he wears over his costume. 521 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,360 The man's shirt wasn't tucked in, but he had a belt on top. 522 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,240 I know it's odd, but Alex was sure. 523 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,680 Young, white, thin, short hair, 524 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,400 white shirt, blue trousers, 525 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200 brown shoes, carrying a black bag. 526 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,280 That is some boy you've got. 527 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,000 Thank you, André. 528 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,920 I know you're focusing on the funeral, but this is… 529 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,080 It's excellent. 530 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Is it? 531 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,600 We can now go back through every witness statement 532 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,760 looking for a match. 533 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,320 But this means that Alex remembers everything. 534 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,320 We don't know what this is doing to him. 535 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,000 Alex's description means we go back through every statement 536 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,240 looking for anything resembling a match. 537 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,000 Look, I know it's a lot on top of everything else, 538 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,840 but this isn't wasted time. 539 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400 Someone must have seen this man. 540 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,400 Talking of wasted time… 541 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,880 Other leads, other details, I'll discuss with you over the phone. 542 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:53,600 Now, we are aware of your work with other forces, Professor Britton, 543 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200 and… as well as your successes. 544 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,360 DI Pedder. 545 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,040 And, we basically need to narrow our pool of suspects. 546 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,240 - That's how you put it, isn't it, Keith? - Yeah. 547 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,400 So do you think you could create 548 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,720 a psychological profile of the monster who did that? 549 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,920 He's no monster. 550 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,600 He's a man, aged between 20 and 30, 551 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,760 with poor heterosocial skills. 552 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000 He'll have a powerful, deviant sexual fantasy life 553 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,280 and probably some form of dysfunction. 554 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:29,280 If he's employed, it will be an unskilled occupation. 555 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,640 And he'll be single, living with parents or alone in a bedsit. 556 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,280 I doubt he was known to the victim, or the child wouldn't be alive. 557 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,400 Her name's Rachel, and we don't say "the victim" here. 558 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,520 You got all that from a few photographs, Mr. Britton? 559 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,800 That's the real conundrum. 560 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,920 Why was the boy allowed to live? 561 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,720 It's "Professor." 562 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,520 André? 563 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,600 André! 564 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,160 What is it, Mum? 565 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:04,800 They're here. 566 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,680 What's up? 567 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,960 Look. 568 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,360 They've found us. 569 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,280 - You're both here. Good. - What is it, Grant? 570 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,320 The man washing his hands at the stream had a black bag. 571 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,200 And after Alex's description, 572 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,200 I knew there was a statement somewhere about a white shirt and a bag. 573 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,040 - And… - You've found it. 574 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,840 Doctor's wife said she passed the same man three times and was suspicious. 575 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,680 And when she saw him the last time… 576 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,000 "I noticed he had a belt or some sort of strap wrapped around his waist." 577 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,480 Like Batman. 578 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,400 Like Batman. 579 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,800 Yeah. She saw our killer. 580 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,480 - You talked about his face as thin? - Yes. 581 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,880 First, a notorious crime 582 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520 that two months ago made headlines all over Britain. 583 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,240 On Wimbledon Common in Southwest London, a young mother, 584 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,680 Rachel Nickell, was waylaid and repeatedly stabbed. 585 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,120 Her scratched and bruised two-year-old son was found clinging to her body. 586 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,040 The man was in his twenties or thirties. 587 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,480 He was tall, more than 5'10", and had short brown hair. 588 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,120 He had a white shirt with buttons and dark trousers, possibly blue, 589 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600 and was carrying a small, dark bag. 590 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,480 Paul, this can't be normal. 591 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,160 - They're going through our bins. - Yeah, and we'll deal with that. 592 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,200 They're stealing our post, ringing the doorbell at all hours. 593 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,040 - We'll have a word. - They're not listening. 594 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,240 André, there's been a development overnight 595 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,160 as a result of the Crimewatch appeal. 596 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,160 Several people have come forward and given the same name from the photo fit. 597 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,280 He's in custody now. 598 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,240 Okay. 599 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,440 All right. Out you get. 600 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,560 It all matches up. 601 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,600 Basically, he's our photo fit on legs. 602 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,040 And an even better match for Professor Britton's profile. 603 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,920 "Professor" now, is it? 604 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,800 Colin Stagg. Twenties, single, unemployed, lives near the common 605 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,960 and visits every day. 606 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,920 Yeah, and he admits to walking his dog there on the 15th. 607 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,800 But he says he was back at home by the time of the murder. 608 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,760 The neighbors reckon he's a weirdo. 609 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,520 We've already found knives in his flat, 610 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,680 plus books on black magic. 611 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,120 You know, I… I wake up, do my paper round, and I… 612 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,880 Well, I go back to my flat, get my dog, Brandy, and we… 613 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,240 We… we… we… we walk around the common. 614 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,160 And did you ever see Rachel, Colin, on the common? 615 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,640 Well, I saw someone who looked like her, yeah, about two years ago. 616 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,000 I… I thought, "That's a… that's a nice-looking girl," you know, 617 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,280 like, "I'd… I'd like to bump into her again." 618 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,240 You know, but… 619 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,320 But you didn't? 620 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,960 Well, no. 621 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,320 What about this one? 622 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,520 - What one? - It looks good. 623 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,840 It's in half. No good. Do you wanna throw that one? 624 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,960 Go on. There's another two there. 625 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,360 I'm so sorry. I just had to come over to… 626 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:12,600 It's André, isn't it? 627 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,680 It was your wife who was murdered in Wimbledon. 628 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,520 - We gotta go. Sorry. - This must be your little Alex. 629 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,440 - Sorry. - I wanted to make sure you're both okay. 630 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,960 - Yeah, he's okay. - No. 631 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,680 - Sorry, I didn't… - I don't want to go. 632 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,040 Now, the thing is, Colin, 633 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000 your neighbor says you were acting strangely 634 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,240 on the day of the murder. 635 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,640 When you told her about it, 636 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,040 you looked like you'd recently bathed and changed. 637 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,400 I know who you're talking about, and she's wrong. 638 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,320 Sorry, can I have a quick word? 639 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,560 Yeah, we've got another neighbor saying she saw him earlier that day 640 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,400 going on to the common at a time when, according to him, 641 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,040 he was already back home. 642 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960 She also says she saw him carrying a black bag. 643 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200 Now, take your time. 644 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,240 It's number five. 645 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,360 You sure? 646 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,360 Number five is the man I saw, 100%. 647 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,600 What if I told you, Colin, 648 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,080 that a very reliable witness 649 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,800 picked you out of an identity parade this morning 650 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,000 and is certain that she saw you on the day of the murder, 651 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,640 near the murder scene, at 10:10, 10:17, and 10:23 a.m.? 652 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,520 It wasn't me. 653 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,800 The thing is, I don't believe you, Colin. 654 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,960 And neither will anybody else. 655 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,520 It wasn't me. 656 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,600 Well… 657 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,360 …he admits sunbathing naked on the common, so charge him with indecency. 658 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,920 But we need an admission on the murder. 659 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,440 But he's lying, sir. 660 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,000 I agree. 661 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,560 100%, she said. 662 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Yeah, he's a compelling suspect. 663 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600 But you know as well as I do, without an admission, 664 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,800 CPS will say all this is circumstantial. 665 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120 Can we get the eyewitness to… well, shore it up? 666 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,880 - Alex? - Yeah. 667 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,800 Or should we consider a special ID parade for him? 668 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,680 Or show him the suspect's picture, at least? 669 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,920 No. 670 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,760 He's so young. 671 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,920 Its evidential value will be limited. 672 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,960 Alex needs to be allowed to be a child, and we need to get that confession. 673 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,760 Well, get it. 674 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,680 Try and remember, people here don't know about our past. 675 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,840 So just don't forget that. 676 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,320 Yeah, as if you'd let me. 677 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,360 André! Alex! 678 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,960 Hi. How are you? 679 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,040 Very good, and you? 680 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,800 You're just in time. We're downstairs already. 681 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680 I'm coming. Welcome. 682 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,040 I hope you're hungry. 683 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:58,240 You've arrived. Come in, come in. 684 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,800 You left the oven on. 685 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:00,880 Sit down. 686 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,960 It rained so much that it left the pool full of leaves. 687 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520 I spent the whole morning getting them out. 688 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,160 You were lucky you weren't here. 689 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,200 Of course, how was London? 690 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,560 Nobody mention London. 691 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000 It's very good. 692 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,160 You don't like the food, Alex? 693 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,040 It's not that. I'm vegetarian. 694 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,560 - But your father said you eat fish. - He does. 695 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,240 But there are some vegetarians who eat fish. 696 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,840 No, I told him I would never eat fish again. 697 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120 Look, it's no trouble. I'll make something else for him. 698 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,160 No, Alex is being stubborn. 699 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,560 He's being a teenager. 700 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,400 Precisely because he's an adolescent. 701 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440 Alex, try a bit, and if you don't like it, you don't have to finish it. 702 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,880 Do you want me to vomit? 703 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,000 That's a bit much. 704 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,440 Why are you getting involved? 705 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,520 What do you mean? 706 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,280 Alex, listen. Until you're 18, you do as I say, okay? 707 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,200 Stop embarrassing us. Eat the fish. 708 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,400 Spare the rod and spoil the child? 709 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,720 It's not a big deal. I'll make something else. 710 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,160 - No. - Do I get punished for this? 711 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,240 Thank you. He'll eat it. 712 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,840 You're letting her down. 713 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,480 Your mother would be ashamed with how you're acting right now, okay? 714 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,720 - Eat the fish. - You're worse than the police. 715 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,160 - Eat the food. - You don't speak for her! 716 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:34,240 Hey, put the knife down. Come on, calm down, guys. 717 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,800 - Alex. - Alex, put the knife down, please. 718 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,800 André! 719 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,240 So you're saying it isn't him? 720 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040 I'm saying that we've had to release him. 721 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,040 But if it is him, 722 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,080 what if he comes for Alex now that he knows that you're onto him? 723 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,880 Alex is safe, André. And this man will not be out there much longer. 724 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,320 How can you say he's safe? You said this was the man. 725 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,600 And now he's free. I don't understand. 726 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,640 I'll be back in a minute. 727 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,480 What did he say? 728 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,760 - They've had to release him. - Why? 729 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,520 I don't know, Mum. I don't know. 730 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,440 - Insufficient evidence… I don't know. - That doesn't make sense. 731 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,040 I know. It doesn't make sense. But I… I don't know what to do. 732 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,560 I don't know what to do about these gifts, about that lot out there. 733 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,120 As soon as they catch him, I'm... 734 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,400 But what if they don't? 735 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,720 Because right now, the killer's still out there. 736 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,080 And Keith can't guarantee Alex's safety. 737 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,040 - No one can. - Okay. 738 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,680 And I promised Rachel that I would look after that boy. 739 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,560 - You don't want him to hear you. - We can't carry on like this. 740 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,240 - He can't carry on like this. - I know, I know. 741 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,840 And between the kind, kind people, 742 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,880 therapists, police, and press, 743 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,400 he can't have a normal childhood, can he? 744 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,640 And maybe that's what I need to do, 745 00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:28,640 is take him somewhere where they don't know who he is. 746 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,000 - No. - Well, what else, Mum? What else? 747 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,560 Maybe this is his only chance of having a fresh start if I take him away for good. 748 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,200 No, you can't make a decision like that now. 749 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,440 Mum, stop. 750 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,920 Not now. 751 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,280 Okay. 752 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,240 Don't let Alex see you like this. 753 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,280 Since the beginning of the Rachel Nickell inquiry, 754 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,400 police have questioned 120 suspects altogether, 755 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,680 but still appear to have little to go on. 756 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,080 And despite the massive public response to the Crimewatch appeal, 757 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,520 it seems they're virtually back to square one. 758 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,480 Colin Stagg isn't just a good suspect. He's our killer. 759 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,280 And we need you to help us prove it. 760 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,080 Now, we've been contacted 761 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,360 by a woman who saw Stagg on the news at the indecency hearing. 762 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,800 She says they were swapping lonely hearts letters 763 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,120 at the end of 1990 through '91 until Stagg's became explicit. 764 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,240 Well, obscene, she said. 765 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,800 And you're thinking of providing him with a new pen pal of your own? 766 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,400 I think it's worth a try. 767 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,240 Now, with that in mind, do you think you can help us 768 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,360 to design a… covert operation to get the truth out of Stagg? 769 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,680 I think so. 770 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,440 Okay. 771 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,680 But we'll need to move quickly. 772 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,960 Because if Rachel's murderer isn't caught, he will kill again.